The Dyslectic Atheist: Is The GOP losing Their Christian Base?

Sunday, April 4, 2010

Is The GOP losing Their Christian Base?

I’ve been checking out Christian talk-radio for a while, trying to get a feel on the pulse of Christians and politics these days. I was very surprised to find that about 40% of the callers actually had something intelligent to say. Most of them were very disappointed over the 8 years that Bush served in office; they said they voted for Bush because they believed he would end abortions and bring back Christian-prayer in the public schools. And they now feel so deeply betrayed by Bush, that most said they wouldn’t vote again until they see a candidate, who shared their same values.

The overwhelming majority of them said that they would not be voting this year in November or in 2012. What I found most interesting was that only a small percentage of them thought that Palin would make a good president. They also seem to be turned off big-time by all of the ignorant and raciest tea-partiers as well. Most of them seemed to feel that neither political party supported their Christian values; and some were even saying that they won’t be voting again, until there is a new party – a “Christian party” (LOL). And most all of them were saying, they will not be sending the GOP party anymore of their money.

Could it be that all that bullshit the GOP has been stirring up to create so much acrimony
In our nation, is now beginning to backfire in their faces. And will the GOP’s base be reduced to those of the ilk who we now see at the tea-parties. I believe the good news in all this is, we’ll be seeing less and less of them voting in the elections.

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Baconsbud 96p · 783 weeks ago

I can't say that I listen to these types of radio shows but have been paying attention to the news. I doubt that it is as bad as the programming comments make it seem. I figure the politicians will do what they normally do to get the votes and money to run their campaign. They will alter their stance during the campaign to get those that are seen as the base for the GOP. If they don't change their stance there is a very good chance that they will end up losing more seats then they gain and they know this. I think one of the reasons that people like Palin are throwing their support to the Tea Party is to force the GOP to change into the party for theocracy. They aren't doing it for this country but for their own goals and their religious goals.

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daughtereponymous 50p · 783 weeks ago

It is true what you say about what is happening...about the goals of the people changing. They see what has happened when a lie and deceit hit the country. The bankers and the politicians, that lead us. The country is on the way down, and we need change. When things go bad the first thing people do is run to god. But what happens is the control in their thinkind and voting comes in the leaders of these so called men of god, who lead them in a fale faith... The Roman Catholic Chrurch has their own thoughts on the world...for the last two Popes have set the path and opened the door for UE. This Pope is much too political...and has .....his mind set on being the power behind the UE and the world.... We can become a nation at war within it self, do to the many religions...and thoughts...

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john_poson26 93p · 783 weeks ago

People in the past would almost always turn to “god” when times got hard; but nowadays folks understand that bad things happen to all people, good or bad. Most people don’t contribute a downturn in the economy, to an omen from a pissed off “god” anymore. I remember this same time last year; I heard two radio-preachers saying that they were hoping the flu season would bring a worldwide pandemic. They said this would cause the people to return to the churches in droves. At the time I was wondered if these ignorant, evil fucking morons knew that the H1N1 strain mostly killed children and old people. That’s pretty goddamn sick hoping for a child-killing flu-pandemic, just in hopes of lining their pockets with cash. I believe most of the world is becoming much smarter; they have started to realize with all the advancements in medicine, simply praying for a cure, is just asinine and ignorant.

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daughtereponymous 50p · 783 weeks ago

Does the pope have the flue?I amtalking about power wealth and control. Rome, is bigbanking.... take a look at it. And look at this pope and the UE. The rise and fall of the almighty$$$$$$'S the gods of this world are being controled....look who is doing the controling....realize that advancement of the UE in the world....with the Pope..saying it's gods will. History repeats it self.

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Baconsbud 96p · 783 weeks ago

So anyone that didn't get the flu is a part of this UE you are talking about. I didn't get the flu nor did I get a flu shot. I guess I must really be super evil then.

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john_poson26 93p · 783 weeks ago

I was only addressing the part of their comment that I thought was relevant to this post. The rest of what they were saying has little relevancy to what I was saying in the post.

The fact that some Christians still thank Jeebus, for everything good that happens in their life, just fucking amazes me to no ends. What I was trying to say was; as a whole, we have started to better understand the reasons by which most natural events occur, and we have few and fewer people, turning to superstition in seeking answers, or advice in these matters. My post was about things that I had heard on the radio, relating to religion and politics. I had thought that Daughterepontmous was making the point that some people still turn to “god,” when bad things start happening in their lives.

The fact that our nation’s economy has been going to “hell” in a hand-basket for some time now; and despite the hardships many are facing, and yet, church attendance, is still declining.
What the two radio preachers seemed to believe was, if people feared that, this strain of flu was a determent to their health; they would then turn to the church and “god,” looking for some kind of protection from it. And they were hoping that the levels of outbreaks would reach a worldwide pandemic (it was like that they were saying: you don’t believe you need the church now; just wait until you’re children start dyeing, and you’ll then see, just how much you need us and “god”).

This is one of the reasons why I want nothing to do with Christians – no one is going to peddle totally worthless bullshit to me out of fear; if I get sick, I simply go to a Doctor. In medieval times however; when the plague started killing people, people had no other place to turn but the church – and we all know the results of that (god and Jeebus; are real shitty Doctors).

I was just wondering at the time if these two radio-preachers, knew what they were saying sounded as ignorant, asinine, evil, and just plain stupid as it did. Most people are not going to pray that they don’t get the flu; they can simply go and get a flu-shot – and just what fucking role these fucking morons thought “god” or fucking Jesus could have played in preventing church goers from becoming sick; I just find that mindboggling.

When I did the research, I found that the same numbers of people die each year from flu; and indifferent from how many people actually had gotten flu-shots, or how effective the shot was in preventing the flu. I then came to realize that for most healthy people, the only benefits of this flu-shot campaign, was big profits for the drug-companies – I simply took my chances using commonsense and lots of hand washing and sanitizing.

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Baconsbud 96p · 783 weeks ago

I do agree that people have opened their eyes and now see that life isn't being directed by some god. The problem is there is no money in smart. Why don't we see more on TV news programs about how people turning from god and being successful? That isn't what the people who own the station want and they also know that advertiser won't pay for time unless viewer ship is up. Thus they cater to the baser emotions of their viewers. I think one of the problems is that most not believers don't watch near as much TV as believers and this helps to keep the old lies going strong.

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john_poson26 93p · 783 weeks ago

The truth is, I don’t even own a working television – and not because I can’t afford one; it’s just that I find 99% of what’s on TV, is just brain-dead and worthless bullshit. When I did watch TV, I found some of the late night Christian shows both funny and entertaining; morally and ethically bankrupt preachers peddling magical spring-water and prayer rags, as cures for sickness – that is, I found this stuff entertaining, until I realized, that the only this bullshit could remain on TV, was that someone was buying this deluded bullshit.

I just hope that someday, people will start seeing Christianity and all religions, for the contrived and asinine bullshit, that they all are!

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john_poson26 93p · 783 weeks ago

I agree there’re some who not only want to see the GOP become a party of theocrats; those same Palin-like morons would also like to see our nation become a Christian theocracy as well. But those are mostly the diehards whom only make up the far outer fringe of the right-wing Christian Nut-Jobs. Historically, the fundamentalist and the evangelical Xtains, didn’t turnout in large numbers at the polls; Nor did any of the rapture-right Xtains, that all began to change in the early 1980s, with the great infusion of the pro-gun anti-gay, right-wing Xtian nuts into the GOP. In meetings, and at the town-halls, and ones held behind closed doors, they were being promised the GOP would end abortions and most all the other things on their Christian wish-list. And now 30 years later, the GOP sill hasn’t come through on any of the things which they promised. I believe their just beginning to see just how the GOP was only using them to get elected and now they’re simply losing interest.
And besides all of that; do you remember what folks like Jerry Falwell were saying to these ignorant-sheep back in the late 70s and 80s, in mobilizing them to vote – Falwell was saying that jesus would be returning within his lifetime; and Jeebus had told him It was Jeebus’ will, that Christians self govern until “he returns.” And here we are over 30 years later, no Jeebus, no Xtain-prayer in the schools – and we still have on demand abortions. The GOP knows it needs them both in November and in 2012 if they’re going to have any hope regaining the White-house. So what will they promise them this time?

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Baconsbud 96p · 783 weeks ago

Oh they will say these same things. How long have I been hearing that Jesus is coming soon? I am almost 47 and would have to say I have been hearing this for at least 45 of those 47 years. The advantage that the politicians have is the people that tend to support them forget what they said a few years back.

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daughtereponymous 50p · 782 weeks ago

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john_poson26 93p · 782 weeks ago

This is especially true of the ones who spent their lives waiting for the “return” of Jeebus. They act like that they’re the first generation that has proclaimed “his” “return.” They forget the fact that deluded Christians have been making these same silly claims, for the last 2000 years now. And most can’t make the connection, between how bad our economy is fucked-up right now, and the last Christ-tard that was in office (G. W. Bush). So they’ll just continue to vote for these same kinds of morons, with these same types of policies, just as long as they claim being a Christian.

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daughtereponymous 50p · 782 weeks ago

We need to make a stand, and not want the quick fix... we are ...the know all generation and these types of radio show---breeds---them. We need to be doers and not talkers....and know who we sit in office, the seats of power, must be the ones we are sitting in. We all are standing up right now....get back in the seat and start learning about the men and woman who run.

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daughtereponymous 50p · 782 weeks ago

Jesus is not coming soon, he is dead. Ps. 48:14 For this G-D is our G-D for ever and ever; He will be our guide to the end. Christians go from one group seeking god and then sins they keep still make them feel something wrong, so they are lead away by another voice leading them. In Truth G-D is a one on one deal, seek G-D within you and ask for help, we cannot do it alone. The LORD is my strength and my song: He is become my salvation. He is my G-D, and I will praise Him, my father's G-D, and will exalt Him. Ex. 15:2 In the 60's we had a movement of youth seeking and opening to make changes now we have youth, that are angry, and their songs have changed and the art of the 60's was out there and now the art today is enbedded in them, for life. We are being lead...like ignorant-sheep, in government. The youth know---and dont know. Ask them who is running and they cannot tell you, yet they know something is not right, their homes, life... We are making it harder and harder....for them to get out from under. There will always be the rich...and now it looks...like rich or poor. What are the songs we will hear from their hearts?

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