Wednesday, April 14, 2010

Are there really any true Christians?


Real Christians VS true Christians, OR are they all ‘pretend’ Christians? I used to get confused over this subject, but then I realized that all one has to do, is to pull one’s self back from the core of this argument to see the truth - all of them are true Christians; if only because of the fact, that they have all based their lives around absolutely nothing. Superstition, ignorance and fear, are not reasonable alternatives to living a rational life. All of these people in one way or another; have all been lead down the path of make-believe and delusion. The real nature of a “true Christian,” only exists within one’s mind – as the fact is that no one has ever offered any current empirical proof for the first cause of Christianity, or any other brand of faith, for that matter.



With all the magic and miracles, in which all of these deluded brands of faith are based on; if any had any real essences of truth contained within them, then we’d all know what a true Christian looked like, when we saw one. They would be raising the dead, live on television, and in the presence of real doctors, who would say: “yep, that guy was definitely dead a week ago when I first saw him – and look now, thanks to Jesus, he’s alive again!”

The fact is no Christian can be any less true to an unsubstantiated set of dogmatic beliefs, than the theists who once believed in the 1000s of other gods and idiopathic religions, were all true to theirs. I find it just mind boggling the way in which most Christians can so easily dismiss all of the other god(s), as simple being a part of mythology – and still hold theirs as the only true god. The fact is, all of these beliefs, can only exist outside the normal realm of reality. And in the world of make-believe; anyone can be anything that they want to be, but that still don’t make it real to others. The only true Christian; is the only one who believes, that they are a true Christian.

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Nothing in this world knows what is real or not! Jesus was a Jewish man...with a heart and mind for truth and wisdom---BUT---nevertheless was not G-D. Paul a another Jewish man did not believe Jesus was G-D. 1 Timothy 21...I charge thee before G-D, and the lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

Note" the word---"AND".....1# G-D-----2# Jesus-----3# elect angels.......three who have all different. G-D-----man----angels. Christianity the lie and deceit.....that comes out of Jewish belief....and embraces pagan rituals and customs....all walk in error .... Jer. 31:27 and Jer. 32:27 states we are all seeded in the house of G-D----but ask a Jew who read scripture....and .....he states....was the mother jewish.....
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I totally disagree with your statement; “Nothing in this world knows what is real or not!” through absolutes in math and science, we can determent the probability of what’s real and what’s not – and still, that data is only as reliable, as the ones performing the tests. And this is why in science, we continually test and retest the data, and most often in doing so, we gain a better understanding of the first cause (sometimes what was first observed, might have been caused by something else).

If one applied the scientific method of testing, to both the “god” in “heaven” and the “god” living at the bottom of a volcano; one would end up with exactly the same results – neither god is real.

The fact is that those who believe in god(s), pixies, fairies, vampires, elves and demons…etc; are all just as deluded as the ones who believe in jeebus. And in reality, the only things in which they are all true to; are only just their deluded beliefs.
Ah, the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.

To be honest, most Christians are not "true" Christians. The only Christians I consider "true" are those who take their bible literally...and I mean literally without equivocation. Fred Phelps may very well be one of these "true" Christians.

The rest view their bibles through the secular lens of our modern society and culture. Granted, most Christians do believe in the literal interpretation of Genesis which puts them at odds with the premise of biological origin, but as far as social justice and human rights I believe they try to thread their compassion through that needle and ignore some of the more obnoxious things upheld in the bible.
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Paul did not believe that Jesus was G-D. The Christians are lied to and deceived, they have their roots back into the Catholic religions that deeply rooted in pagan rituals and customs.....and the christians.....bring these customs with them...so they also worship in error...and do not see. 1 Timothy 5:21...I charge thee before G-D, and the lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality. LOOK at this....note: the ands G-D ----and* ----Jesus---and*----the angels. Three ----G-D and ..... so Jesus....and the angels are not ---G-D in Pauls eyes. Some how, the lie and deceite was seeded in, and the god of the mankind is now worshiped.....the error. Ezekiel 13...G-D speaks, of the religions that have seeded themselves and others down...and what G-D will do for those who loved him and never found Him, and worshiped in vain. For G-D will not mix with sin, and have anything to do with anything given to pagan god... Remember history----Catholic church----if you were not a catholic---your land and your life was taken... fear...was what they seeded.... When we are young, are minds and hearts...love and are so opened....this is were the lie and deceit takes their life...it is hard to up root your self...Read Act 9:22 --ch 18:5 --17:24 --17:31 24:14 1 Corinthians 8:6 Ephesians 4:6 and 3:14 Jesus was not G-D by the men that followed him....these Jewish men...had a message....that Jeremiah...stated...Jer. 31:27 Behold, the dayss cooome(DNA in every generation),, ...said the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast. Jer. 32:27...Behold, Iam the LORD, the G-D of All Flesh: is there any thing too hard for Me? These men knew, that the Jewish people were walking in error...Israel was to be nation of holy priest...seeding G-D the work of G-D'S hands....all mankind, and beast, by their good works in the earth, doing good to all mankind. The world would of wanted to embrace them, as well as the G-D of Creation, that would of blessed them and kissed them with the second breath...of eternal life into the world to come.
Yes, sort of; this is the way my dad used to explain this “true Christian” thing to me. He would say that no one can be any more or less truer in these matters; no matter if someone worships “Jesus,” or the ass-hole of a sheep. According to the bible; Christ was the Christian role-mode for being a “true-Christian.” We don’t even see Phelps giving everything he owns to the poor, like “Jesus” said to do.

In reality, it doesn’t matter if someone claims to be a “true Christian,” or a true sheep-theist – the true nature of both, only exists in their minds!
Jesus was not G-D----but----the leaders----raised him up as high as G-D and the world does everything in his name and not the True Name of the Living G-D of All Mankind-Jer. 32:27 Jer. 31:27. I talked about Paul, and scripture, because people dont read what is there----it is more easy for them to follow.... The problem with that is the blind are leading the blind, due to lie and deceit of religions seeded in our hearts and minds so young. Isaiah 47:4 Our Redeemer the LORD Almighty is His name is the Holy One of Israel. G-D redeemes His people....He knows His...Gen. 27:27 those that the Almighty has brought forth and gave a second breath...the kiss of the Eternal G-D Gen 27:27 Job 33 The Spirit of G-D made me (flesh one breath sons of man- Ecc.3:18) but the breath of the Almighty gives me life. ( the second breath...sons of G-D--Ps. 2:7 Gen.27:27--28:20
Christians,....they know something is not right, they know they want to believe, and most jump from one belief to another always looking and not seeing. The lie and deceit that has been seeded down through religions make them still feel not full. We have another side of us, as we were created in the mirror image of our G-D of Heaven and Earth. The Spirit of G-D below on earth and the Almighty above, the heavens.
In scripture....there is a declared decree....for all to obey....for G-D decrees it! Ps. 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art My son; this day have I brought you forth. ( or begotten you, or birth you) Here like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and David and others have been brought forth into the kingdom and the house of G-D. . Why because they labored putting sin out...Gen. 27:27 and became sons of G-D.

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