Sunday, April 11, 2010

Thanks for the Invite.


Thanks for inviting me to make post on your blog and I will try not to disappoint you. I haven't really ever told anyone out here that much about myself and figure I should probably do that in this posting. 

I tend to avoid being very open about myself even to people I know. I am a 46 yr old male who until just a little over a year ago finally started to get involved in fighting against the negative influence of religion. I knew at a fairly early age I wasn't like most of the others around my age when it came to religion. Me and one of my brothers was always getting into trouble for playing tic-tac-toe during the church services and we even got called out by the preacher once. I never bought into that 6000 year old earth belief and I think that when I asked my dad about how could the dinosaurs have lived millions of years ago, it was the only time I saw anger in his eyes at a question like this. I never got a straight answer from him but I knew not to ask it again. I know I was under 14 when I asked this and I don't think I have ever asked him another religious question. I guess I had already decided at that time I believed in something other then creationism but at the time I didn't know what it was. I can't say religion was an important part of my life at anytime and it was in vacation bible school that I knew for sure I was different then others. I was 13 or 14 and the next year I wouldn't be attending vacation bible school but would be there to help out in instructing the younger kids if I went. One of the other guys there was just to excited about how he was going to pass on the words of the lord next year. I felt embarrassed for him and it was shortly after that that I quit attending church. 

I don't see myself as an atheist but I know that I am not a theist. I don't believe there is a being or force anything like what people here on earth claim there is. I don't think I ever saw myself as a christian so I have no conversion story.

I enjoy studying history for the most part and I think that is one of the key factors in deciding that religion is full of crap. I see religion not as a major factor in the evils of man but the guiding force which has caused man to make the same stupid mistakes over and over. Religion has for thew most part held mankind back until the last few hundred years. Yes they did have educational institutes but they weren't for all people but a select few. How many people who could have helped to advance mankind were denied the education they needed by religion? Even now religion keeps people who could help mankind advance from following their dreams when they were young. I have no stats on the number of people who want to go into advanced sciences or other fields but because these fields conflict with their religious views they abandon those dreams. I have a niece who could have gone into most any field she wanted but because of her religion she abandon those so she could remain blind to the facts. She isn't the only one I know that hid from facts because of their brainwashing as a child. I live in a fairly rural area that puts religion about all else and have seen many leave for college just to return when they were forced to admit that their beliefs weren't universal. Instead of facing these other views they ran back to their group of like believers. 

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Thanks for posting your story, Baconsbud. It got me to thinking about a roommate of my son when he was in his second year in college. This kid’s parents were divorced, and he had been raised by his mother, who was a devout Christian. His father on the other hand, was a scientist and atheist, who owned a very successful oil and mineral exploration business, in the south (I believe in Texas). According to my son, this kid had been educated from grade one through twelve, in the same Christian school. Despite that fact, my son said he was extremely intelligent – and his dad had hopes of him getting a degree in geology, then working at his business, and someday taking over his business. This kid just couldn’t get beyond his Christian teaching; and the real facts of science. This boy had been taught to just believe in the bible, and he’ll live forever – and that science was just something, which was created by Satan, to take away his chances for eternal life.

After he learned that the earth was more than 4.5 billion years old; (so jeebus in fact, did not have a pet dinosaur) he told my son that everything he was learning, was against ‘his’ Christian “teachings,” so he changed his major, but then he later dropped out of college altogether, and went back home to his mother.
When this boy was still at college, his father ask my son to try and talk to him, then my son tried with the boy’s father, to get me to talk to him; but at the time, I was too busy dealing with my own “demons,” to help him.

Who knows what that boy could have become; besides the fact his dad was paying for his college, and offering him a great job. But this boy had simply been brainwashed by ignorant Christians, into accepting there silly and ignorant worldview. Some of these ignorant fucking Christians, want to lead us all back to the dark ages – this as another reason why we protected our children from fucking Christians, and their delusions. We wanted our children to have a better life than us. The only thing these ignorant Christians want for their children, is to see them again, after they die in an imaginary place called heaven.

My lady and I, and most of our friends, are getting to the point of not having any tolerance for these fucking ignorant people and their deluded beliefs. It’s one thing, if they choose to brain-fuck the minds of their own children, and create little brain-dead fucking idiots, and morons; but it’s entirely another thing when they try to spread, their mental sickness to everyone else.

I believe that the sadist part of all this is, the fact that these ignorant Christians, brainwash children into believing this absolute useless fucking bullshit, out of fear – my son’s roommate believed that learning science, would send him to hell – so he made a choice to remain ignorant. I believe it’s time we start calling this sick practice, of indoctrinating children into these silly fucking cults, for what it is – its simply child abuse!
Thank you both, I understand you . My story is long...... but thank you both... I believe in science and we are for ever learning. I do not like religions in any form. But I do see G-D in my life...sorry....it's how I see it. We can learn so much from science, it has all to do with G-D.
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I can understand you having a belief in god, 1 of my 3 sons leaves open the possibility of something greater than us might have created the universe. And likewise my son, I am only atheist to the 2000 or so man made god(s); including Horus, Jesus, Ra and the “god” in the bible etc…etc…etc. if I were offered empirical proof of such a being, I would be Ok with that, but I would not deify or worship it (those are only human traits).

I believe the only way we will ever find the true answers, of if there is in fact some god like entity, is through science. And I don’t believe that whatever did in fact create the universe, it would even care if we were aware of it or not.
I can't agree with you last statement. If science really all about god then there would be evidence of god that could only point to him/her/it. For any evidence that points to your god it also points to all the other gods worshiped by man. Why do you believe your holy book is the right one while all the others are wrong?
I believe your dad’s reaction is very typical of the way most Christians respond to questions like that. They get angered simply because they don’t even want to think about stuff like that. My mom was too intelligent to accept the normal Christian tripe; like “god’s days were a lot longer, or to try and dispute science – she would simply say she didn’t know. My dad on the other hand, was quick to say that it was all just made-up bullshit.

I can understand your embarrassment of the other kids. I felt the same way when I would be with other kids, and they would start telling that asinine bullshit to younger children; and I would always make it a point, to tell the younger kids, that not everyone in this world believe that kind of bullshit, including myself.

BTW, feel free to post anything you want here, Baconsbud - I have long admired your creative talent in writing skills.
John
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It is even worse that I have nieces and nephews that can really embarrass me with their strange views. You have to understand that my family is of the Southern Baptist and AofG types. Both of these have some strange views in my opinion.
We are to be standing on the true foundation that we were created for. We do not live up to what we could become..all of mankind fail. Science.... Like a branch, a tree, a burning bush or lighted tree ....we are what the spirit of G-D rest upon and ignites with six other spirits, wisdom, understanding , counsel, power, knowledge, and fear of the Presence of G-D upon us. We are not the source of the light we are not the fuel. We are to be willing conduits for G-D'S holiness and His light, leading into the knowledge and understanding of how to serve Him. We are the conduits for His message to the world, by our actions and all we say. If we alow the Spirit to flow through us we there by accomplish G-D'S will--for life in us. We are always under a covenant with someone. The question is not whether, but with whom? We can not be neutral. By the fact we have free-will, choice. We hate it or love it... Science, we need to see more, nothing just happened to us. Look at the Orion Mystery. We are forever learning...are there invisible beings that inhabit the spiritual world....is there other dementions around us, I belive there is like the rings of a tree. People today are reporting to the news media the presence of angels having ministered to them. I have for one have many stories...and always some one else was there to see it. Stories with extraordinary experiences that I can only attribute to ---a Power greater than me.
There is a lot to see, we just need to open our eyes and minds to it. We see in color, and beast in black and white...what is out there that we are not seeing around us....?

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