Saturday, April 10, 2010

The Roots of the Black American Christian Culture:



Back in the 1970s when I was in my teen years; I did the nightclub and afterhour’s club thing at least 2 or 3 times a week. Do to my successful business dealings; I always had a lot of money, and I was into gabling, mostly playing blackjack - and there was always a floating game going on, somewhere in the city. There where at least 20-30 regular players, and at least two games going on at any given time. And these games would float around between the homes of the players.
I would sit around the table playing with pimps, whores, dope-dealers, preachers and deacons, and many types of others people. As I would sit there playing cards and listing to all the latest gossip – like who had died, who had been murdered, who was cheating on their wives, and who was fucking who; the subjects of religion and politics would almost always come up, and almost always the arguing would began as well.
Most of the talk back then was about Watergate and Nixon – and how the black man was being fucked over by the white man. Most had strong opinions in these matters, and the fact that I was the only one there who believed that Nixon wasn’t such a bad president; I simply stayed out of those types of arguments. However, when the subject turned to religion and me being an atheist; I was always dragged into the conversations.

About half of the players were not into the church thing; and about half of them didn’t believe in god or Jesus. Some of them would try to be as intentionally offensive about religion, as they possibly could. They would say things to the Christians at the table, who believed in the story of the “virgin-birth,” they would say things like: “so you believe a snake, crawled-up that little bitch’s ass, and made your savior Jesus?” most of these conversations would become real heated at times; and just before the guns and knives started coming out, one of the preachers would intervene. He would say things like: “do you really think that Jesus would approve of a Christian killing someone over something as petty as this.” Then someone would say to the preacher: “do you think that Jesus approves of you gambling with the churches money?” then after a while, things would calm down again, and the game would resume.
As a teenager I just couldn’t understand, how someone could feel so passionate over a belief, that it would drive them to shoot someone. I started wondering why black Christians, were so much more uncompassionate to the non-beliefs of others, in their beliefs in god and Jesus, than the white Christians are.

In many of these less heated conversations, someone would always ask me why I was an atheist and why I didn’t believe in god. Explaining my position on god and religion back then to black Christians was always extremely hard. Most black Christians back then, were highly superstitious; and they saw the world of religion, as clear black and white issues, and with no middle ground. In their deluded little world of Jesus VS Satan; either you were with Jesus, or you were with the devil. With them there were only two types of black people – those who served Jesus, and those who did not. They would say things to me like: “you can’t serve two masters – either your serving Jesus, or your serving the devil.”                     
I would simply say that I don’t serve any master, and I only live my life for the love of life itself. And I just cannot subscribe myself to a belief which is based on nothing more, than a bunch of silly stories, written in an old book. So most of them, simply believed I was just plain evil, and the fact that I understood many more things about the world than they did; lead some to believe that I had made some kind of pact with the devil.
I was highly into math, science and electronics; and I had started repairing things like TV’s radios and stereos for people, when I was about 14, and I was making a lot of money doing that. Then when the cable companies added the first pay channel; I started designing and building devices, which allowed someone to watch the pay channel(s) for free. And I was making real good money back then.
What I found even more amazing than the black Christians attitudes of this conceived little black and white world of good and evil of theirs, was the fact that most were profoundly superstitious in almost every facet of their lives. If it rained on a Tuesday, they believed that was an unlucky day to play cards. If a black-cat crossed their path, than that was an unlucky day as well. Most had lucky shirts and other things for each day of the week. There were even a few of them who would get up from the table when I would sit down; they even would say things like: “Satan’s here – and I know I’m going to start losing my money.” But the only real thing which was really going on there was that I was just playing, the mathematical odds at the table.
Aside from what I learned through playing cards with these people; there were the private conversations that I had with these gambling preachers and deacons. Most of them were not as superstitious and ignorant as the rest of the people were; in fact two of them were highly intelligent, and could clearly see what was going on with me at the table. I became good friends with both of them, and we would almost always put our money together in the pot, when one of us was dealing.
What I found most interesting was the fact that they both were only religious on the surface; and they were just as skeptical about religion and god(s) as I was. And they believed that they were only performing a needed service for the black people. And do to the fact that over the years here in America, religion and Christianity had become so ingrained in the black culture; that most blacks would be totally lost, without their beliefs in religion and Jesus.
I started wondering if this had any relationship to the reasons why so many black people, never left the plantations after being freed as slaves. After a life of being owned by their masters, I’m sure that many of them felt lost without their masters as well. Still, I just couldn’t get the serving of the two master’s thing, out of mind. Black people in this nation had never even heard of Jesus, until they had arrived here. They were indoctrinated into the Christian-cult, by slave owners telling them, that Jesus was their white savior and master, who watches over them from the sky (so if I’m not watching your black-asses; then he is).  And only if you worship and love him; then he’ll keep you safe (I can only imagine what a hellish fucking life, it would have been to live as a slave back then – I know for a fact, that I would have not made it; “fuck them, and their fucking savior!”) this was simply a ploy to train them to love the white men (I simply find this so appalling on so many different levels).
In a free society, why would someone still feel the need to serve a master; other than it’s the same slave mentality. Then there’s the fact that some black people feel the need to outdo other races in everything, including stupidly and ignorance. I recently witnessed this with PROP 8 in California. The largest contributor was the Mormon Church; a longtime racist organization, which only until recently, excluded blacks from its priesthood. And in the 1950s and 1960s, the church fought just as hard to limit the rights of black people, as they’re now fighting to limit the rights of gay people (if black Christians believe that it’s Ok to discriminate against gay people, because it’s in their bible; then they need to look a little further, because it says the same about them too).
In 2010, black people still believing that old slave story is just astounding to me; that there’s a 2000 year old white master which is still watching them from the sky. I believe that we as black people can continue to grow and move forward, only by letting go of our fear, silly superstitious religious beliefs, and our slave mentality. Instead of worshiping and loving some imaginary space-god; and hating everyone else who has different beliefs – turn that same love to oneself, and our people.

(To be continued)     

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This is something I have always been confused about people within the black race. Why would someone want to be a part of a religion that has been used for over 1500 years to justify their slavery and the racist attitude many christians have. Most of those I call hard racist use some or all of the verses in the bible to justify their hate of blacks. What I call a hard racist is someone who hates not because he has been forced into this view but because he has been taught this view. You might be asking how someone is forced into a racist view? The way I see it us whites either chose to be racist or not. Many of the blacks I have known that are hardcore racist have been forced into this view because of how whites have treated them. Where I live I can actually go weeks without being forced into a situation where I have to deal with a black racist. It is almost a daily thing for blacks around here to have to deal with racist somewhere. I hope this kind of makes sense.
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I had a deep seeded hatred of racist white people, until I was in my late teen years. This was because of my experiences I had, when the city where I lived in, started a desegregation program in the public schools. At its conception, this program was a disaster – the racist white opponents of this program, were lead by their preachers and pastors; and the black opponents to this program, were lead by the same. Both sides used the bible, as the basis of their arguments, that “god” had intended, to keep the races separate and pure.

In the first year that the program was implemented; some white parents were asking:”how could god let something like this happen,” while some of the white preachers were saying, that if they didn’t end this program; “god” will destroy all of Seattle, and all of your children will die (just the same old Christian-bullshit, of spreading fear).

After being transferred from a predominantly black school, and then bused to a predominantly white school; I experienced extreme racial hatred, just as all the black children did. They would call us many names, which all had the word nigger at the end. I was mostly called a half-breed nigger, who had a nigger-loving mother. After my second year of this madness, and my poor grades caused by the teachers throwing my school-work into the waste-paper basket, before even grading it; my parents decided to transfer me back to my old school – but by this time, I was so turned off to school, that I ended up dropping out later, anyway, and this is why I was later home-schooled by a friend.

After receiving a more superior education, than any I could have received in the public schools; I began seeing just how stupid and ignorant racism was, and I stopped being racist myself. And I just stopped dealing with people who were racist, regardless of their color.
Today, Seattle is one of the most progressive Cities on the west coast, and this all had its beginnings, within school desegregation.

I have a lot more to say in response to your comment, most of which is the same stuff that I had written about 6 months ago, as part 2 of this post. And I was real surprised by the fact that your comments, lead right into my next post on this subject (I guess some atheists, sometimes, do think alike).
Actually this is the first time I have discussed my views on how each race comes to their racist views. I sometimes wonder what I would have been like if I hadn't gone into the military. I have to say it wasn't until I went into the military that I really began to learn about racism. I am from the same state that had to have troops from the National Guard federalized so a high school could be integrated. That should give you an idea of how naive I was about race relations when I enter the army. I got to thinking about this because of something I read or heard and have been wondering what kind of response I might get from it.
I remember as child watching on television, the replays of George Corley Wallace, and a group of hatful white people, trying to block the entrance of a school. This was in the summer of the year, that I learned that I was being transferred, to a mostly white school in the fall. When I arrived for my first day of school, the teachers and staff, and some of the white parents, had all lined in front of the school, to all scone at us, as we were leaving the bus, and call us niggers (I turned around and asked the bus-driver, if he could take me back home – he was also appalled by this profound display of ignorance, and he called the police).

I have heard many stories from black enlisted people, of the racism that they had experienced in the military; but I have never heard it from someone with a different prospective. You should do a post about what you experienced in the military – I believe that would make an interesting post!
You are right that it could be interesting to write about how I came to the point I am right now from my beginnings. It will be a few days before I will be able to do this but it will probably help me learn a little more about myself.

Another subject I have been thinking about lately has nothing to do with this but one that seems it might throw a wrench in this christian nation thing we always hear. You know about the christian militia group that got busted. Some if not most christians are claiming they weren't christians. If you find why people are saying they aren't christians let me know.
I’ve read and heard Christians saying, the group of Christians planning those attacks on the police officers, were not “real Christians,” because Christianity is a religion of peace and love…LOL!

I don’t know where those ignorant morons, get this warm and fuzzy picture of Christianity from – most of the Christians that I’ve met, were so full of hate, for people of other beliefs and non-believers like you and me; that they were also, very unhappy as well.

I would like to read your posts on both of these subjects; and especially the one about how being in the military, effected your world view.
And did the christian ever given any thought to how dark Jesus the Jewish man was, and Moses, Abraham----David was a red head and light..... G-D is green.....the Creator....loves green....fooling Solomon, married many blacks and their children were seeded in. The early world there were more dark people than light... In Africa, they found a grave of small children skulls , I seen it on the history ch. They belived that the children were killed becouse they were white. Could this have started here?

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