Thursday, March 11, 2010
What has religion contributed to science and technology?
One thing that pisses me off more than anything else is when I hear some ignorant preacher claiming that the reason this nation is so technologically advanced is because of “god’s” blessing; when in reality the fact is, these same deluded-ignorant idiots and morons, preach against anything and everything in science, which proves the “facts” in the bible to be wrong. The truth in this matter is we as a nation, only began to be able to develop the sciences and technologies we have today, only after we separated from the oppressive church – and only then were enlightened people able pursue new ideas in science and in technologies, and without the fear of being burned-alive at the stake. The fact is the church; Christianity, “god” and religion, have contributed absolutely nothing to this process – and in defense of their asinine claims, they will try and start cherry-picking science, just like they cherry-pick the bible; however, doing this with science, only makes them look silly and stupid in the eyes of intelligent people.
They try to claim that all our technological advancements were inspired by “god,” when the fact is over 90% of our greatest inventers were non believers or atheists. Albert Einstein, who laid the foundations of modern physics, was appalled by the notion of the Christian god playing such games as in the bible, and at the same time being credited for creating the universe. Men like Thomas Edison, an outspoken atheist, who contributed so much to advance this nation, and the whole world for that matter, in a technologically direction; wasn’t inspired by the fucking bible either. Men like Steve Jobs and Bill Gates, who have done more to connect the world than any others are not Christians; they’re both atheists.
In reality what this all boils down to is the fact that “god” and Christianity, has contributed absolutely nothing to our modern concepts and technologies. The fact is that you won’t hear most scientist, thanking god or Jeebus for their latest scientific breakthrough; is because well over 90% of them are non-believers and atheists.
I believe that we in the rational community have an obligation to set the record straight in these matters; this is the wrong message to be sending to our children – for if we let the ideas that religion and science can co-mingle within the same realm of reality; we’ll all be led straight back to the dark-ages!
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What has religion contributed to science and technology?
2010-03-11T11:41:00-08:00
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Dave · 786 weeks ago
Baconsbud 96p · 786 weeks ago
john_poson26 93p · 786 weeks ago
Baconsbud 96p · 786 weeks ago
john_poson26 93p · 786 weeks ago
But I believe the most profoundly ignorant statement I have heard to date was @GospelToday saying I was mentally murdering Christians with my hate; the logic in that one still eludes me!
daughtereponymous 50p · 783 weeks ago
David decree for the Watchers Ps. 28:1,3,4 Unto thee will I cry, O LORD my Mighty I AM Presence, my Rock: Draw me not away with the Watchers and with the workers of iniquity, which speak peace to their neighbours, but mischief in their hearts. Give them according to their deeds and according to the wickedness of their endeavours: give them after the work of their hands; render to them their desert. Unto thee will I cry, O LORD, my Mighty I AM Presence, my Rock.
me414 -1p · 786 weeks ago
john_poson26 93p · 786 weeks ago
There’s a big difference between stating that the foundation of a belief system is rooted in ignorance, and has not contributed anything to modern science (which it hasn’t); and stating that no person ever claiming to be a Christian had ever made such a contribution, are in fact two very different statements indeed. But I guess for you and those other ignorant morons you entertain over there on your blog; facts don’t even matter! And most of your other statements in your post are so devoid of actual facts, including the one about Michael Faraday being “a devout Christian;” I’m not even going or trying to go there with you (every credible story on this subject tends to indicate he was a freemason and a deist). You need to start doing your own research instead of relying on those Christian web sites for your information.
And the church only became interested in science after the scientific methods of research became a threat to its core belief system.
John
Baconsbud 96p · 786 weeks ago
I am a deeply religious nonbeliever - this is a somewhat new kind of religion.
Albert Einstein
It is odd that you use what sounds like a Catholic review of Galileo. If he was so wrong why do so many consider him the father of science? I would say you didn't refute anything you just pointed out some people, even with the choke hold of the church, were still able to advance science. You also didn't look at how slow the advances were until that hold was shaken lose. You didn't show how Jesus helped to advance science nor technology. Like most christians you change the goal post so you could easily get what you wanted out of it but got no where in it.
me414 -1p · 786 weeks ago
So, Baconbud, the old scientists weren't all that important to you? Tell me where you think we would be today without their work? Show me your list of atheist scientists...all 90% of them. LOL!
Jesus wasn't put on this earth to "advance technology" he was put here to save our souls. Too bad you're gonna miss out on that. :-D
Baconsbud 96p · 786 weeks ago
I won't be missing anything when I die but you are missing much of what life offers beyond your belief system. Why do you think you have the right beliefs? There are billions that say you are wrong.
I never claimed that 90% said they were atheist but as usual christians create their own information instead of using the truth. Here is one list of atheist scientist. http://www.celebatheists.com/?title=Category:Scie... I know you have questions about atheism and have only gotten answers from fellow christians and we know how well they are able to lie so try this site also. http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismscienceevoluti...
me414 -1p · 786 weeks ago
As a lifelong member of a sect called the Sandemanians, he believed that nature substantiates the existence of its Creator. Because one God created the world, all of nature mut be interconnected as a single whole, he believed. Therefore, electricity and magnetism must be interlinked. This view of nature was the very view emphasized by the Sandemanians. Key to Faraday's thought was the idea that objective reality must judge every theory, no matter how elegant and sophisticated...
Just thought you'd like to know the facts instead of just making stuff up. I'm sure that hurts your brain.
Baconsbud 96p · 786 weeks ago
john_poson26 93p · 786 weeks ago
I’m simply not going to let this moron lead me down the path to debating against a point of which I was never even trying to make. The fact is I totally agree with about half of what she was saying in her post – but it has no relevance to this post at all.
The fact is I don’t even care about the Biographies that were written about people long after their death by members of their church who were naturally inclined to interfuse the beliefs of their church and of those who they’re writing about. In fact if one reads the letters of which Michael Faraday wrote about both the philosophical and scientific differences he seemed to have with Benjamin Franklin; one could infer that both their sciences and philosophies were not at odds with each other; and the fact that other scientist who were also Freemason claimed him as their own is not relevant to this post either.
This is only an expression of the typical deluded Christian mentality.
Baconsbud 96p · 786 weeks ago
john_poson26 93p · 786 weeks ago
When I talk to students who are attending colleges and universities, they say that most of their teachers and professors are non-believers and atheists. In fact all of the teachers of the science classes my sons attended were in fact atheists. Those on the far-right are all ways complaining that our children are being taught in the higher learning institutions by atheists. Some of the Christian nutjobs claim this is why so many of our children have turned away from belief in “god” and religion. The fact is you won’t find very many credibly scientist who believe that 2000 years ago, a ghost raped a little girl and made a baby jesus. One of my sons had a Christian friend when he was in college, who changed his major after he said that the science which he was learning, conflicted with his religious teachings
I don’t know where Miss Nunly found the information for her review of Galileo, but Galileo was in fact the first person to manufacture a useful telescope, and he is considered by most to be the father of modern astronomy. What she left out of her review was the fact that Galileo was put on trial by the church, and was almost burned at the stake over his sun-centered theory. And because he refused to fully recant, he spent the last years of his life under house-arrest.
Baconsbud 96p · 786 weeks ago
john_poson26 93p · 786 weeks ago
Baconsbud 96p · 786 weeks ago