I have been closely following the story of the ten Baptists missionaries, who were arrested, after attempting to cross Haiti’s border, with the 33 Haitian children, whom they claimed were orphans, and that they were only trying to help the children. This incident has caused much outrage among the Haitian people, who believe these people, were only taking advantage of a devastating situation for their own personal gains. After these people were formally charged, and as more information has become available, is seem s the claims of the Haitian people, are well founded in this matter.
It appears the ringleader in this sad story (Laura Silsby) was over her head in bills, and drowning in a sea of debt. She apparently, either out of desperation, greed or both, decided she would go to Haiti, and steal some black children and then sell them, or use them as props in those late night TV programs (like feed the children and others, which pull at your heart strings to send them money). One could frame this many other ways, but it’s clear her intent was the illegal trafficking of these children. It has come to light that 3 days before they were arrested; the police had prevented them from leaving Haiti, with almost a hundred other children, which they had also rounded up and were attempting to cross the border into the Dominican Republic with. At that time, they were detained and the children were removed from their custody. Then they were warned, at that time, if they tried to do this again, and without the proper paperwork, they would be arrested and charged with kidnapping.
After they were formally charged with kidnapping, and after which, outside of the court as they were being transported back to jail; there were many people yelling at them, and at least one reporter started throwing rocks at them too. Most of the Christians are having a hard time understanding why the Haitian people are so mad over this; and say the actions of these people, just proves the ten won’t be able get fair trials in Haiti.
I found this posting by the Christian news-wire just astounding in the way these events have played out in the thoughts of these ignorant mindless people:
It is Disgraceful that Escaped Haitian Criminals are Roaming the Streets of Haiti While Ten American Christian Missionaries Remain in Jail
WASHINGTON, Feb. 6 /Christian Newswire/ -- The Christian Defense Coalition calls for the Obama Administration to treat the American missionaries jailed in Haiti with the same commitment they are treating the three American hikers jailed in Iran.
With respect to the jailed hikers in Iran, Secretary of State Clinton has stated;
"As we have said repeatedly, we call on Iran to release all of the American citizens that they have currently detained. We believe they're being unjustly detained and that they should be released without further delay."
The hikers are being held on espionage charges.
With respect to the ten American missionaries being held, Secretary of Clinton has stated,
"Obviously, this is a matter for the Haitian judicial system. We're going to continue to provide support as we do in every instance like this to American citizens who have been charged and hope that this matter can be resolved in an expeditious way, but it is something that a sovereign nation is pursuing based on the evidence that it presented when the charges were announced."
Why the double standard toward the Christian missionaries?
Why not treat them the same as the hikers in Iran and demand their immediate release?
It is clear that the Obama Administration is not applying the same standard to the missionaries in Haiti as they are to those jailed in Iran.
The same rule should be applied to both situations. That is, the call for the missionaries immediate release without any more delays.
These Christian missionaries should not be treated as second class citizens by President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton.
Rev. Patrick Mahoney along with Rev. Rob Scheck met this week with Haitian Ambassador Joseph in an attempt to secure their release.
For more information or interviews call:
Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney at 540.538.4741 202.547.1735
With respect to the jailed hikers in Iran, Secretary of State Clinton has stated;
"As we have said repeatedly, we call on Iran to release all of the American citizens that they have currently detained. We believe they're being unjustly detained and that they should be released without further delay."
The hikers are being held on espionage charges.
With respect to the ten American missionaries being held, Secretary of Clinton has stated,
"Obviously, this is a matter for the Haitian judicial system. We're going to continue to provide support as we do in every instance like this to American citizens who have been charged and hope that this matter can be resolved in an expeditious way, but it is something that a sovereign nation is pursuing based on the evidence that it presented when the charges were announced."
Why the double standard toward the Christian missionaries?
Why not treat them the same as the hikers in Iran and demand their immediate release?
It is clear that the Obama Administration is not applying the same standard to the missionaries in Haiti as they are to those jailed in Iran.
The same rule should be applied to both situations. That is, the call for the missionaries immediate release without any more delays.
These Christian missionaries should not be treated as second class citizens by President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton.
Rev. Patrick Mahoney along with Rev. Rob Scheck met this week with Haitian Ambassador Joseph in an attempt to secure their release.
For more information or interviews call:
Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney at 540.538.4741 202.547.1735
What these people fail to realize is; most of the Haitian people, see the actions of the kidnappers no differently, then the way most seen those of the slave traders, who had rounded up and stole their ancestors from Africa, simply to sell them to the highest bidder.
Personally, at first I sort of felt sorry for at least 7 of those Baptists missionaries, who I believed might have been tricked by Laura Silsby, into believing she had the proper paperwork and they thought what they were doing was legal. Then after hearing what had happened only 3 days earlier before they were arrested, I just find it too hard to believe that the others were that stupid – I mean, even Christians, you would think, at least 1 or 2 of the others, would have realized stealing children was wrong, and then refused to participate in another attempt at it. At least one of them would have had to suspect something was wrong, after the incident with the first children ended the way it did?
Today, a Judge in Haiti just ruled, the ten kidnappers should be set free – what do you think?
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Baconsbud 96p · 791 weeks ago
The news article you posted seems to think kidnapping is the same as crossing a national border are the same. I think that the people that wrote the story are just playing their see how persecuted we are. They haven't really thought about the actions of the so called missionaries. I wouldn't be surprised if those that wrote it have been in anyway keeping up with all the evidence.
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The question was to see where you draw the line at bending the law. Seems like you don’t mind bending or maybe even breaking the law if you want?
@GospelToday 68p · 789 weeks ago
What if they were your children that the child molesting pedophiles were targeting with their secretly taking pictures? Would you still be okay with it?
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(most likely these 11 comments will be deleted as I’ve had my posts deleted before due to people not wanting to hear the truth)
Part 1
Baconsbud, you and I live in the present. You and I do not live in the past nor do we live in the future. We all live in the present. Your and my view of the universe happens in the present. Your and my viewing the stars and galaxies happens in the present. Your and my view of the earth happens in the present. You and I experience The Grand Canyon in the present when we visit it. If you or I were to find and look at fossils, it would exist in the present. Everything that you and I encounter we encounter in the present.
@GospelToday 68p · 788 weeks ago
For example Baconsbud, when I use my 9.25” telescope to look at the moon which goes around the earth we live on and planets which are in our solar system and stars off in the distance, I’m doing it in the present and there are no tags on the moon or the planets nor on the stars which tell me how old they are. Another example is when I go to a museum and look at fossils there, I’m doing it in the present and the fossils are there in the present with me and the other people at the museum. When someone digs up a fossil, that person doing the digging did it in the present and the fossil that the person found was found in and exists in the present and there was no tag or inscription on the fossil when it was found which told its age on it.
@GospelToday 68p · 788 weeks ago
Scientifically, the Holy Bible has been confirmed over and over again since ~1407 B.C when the Old Testament was first started and the ~2 thousand years for the New Testament being completed. There’s solid proof of the Bible’s authenticity and accuracy and History and Science and Excavations have confirmed it again and again. The Qumran texts (a.k.a. the Dead Sea Scrolls) that were found in 1947 and the following years have given very strong testimony to the reliability of the Old Testament (OT). These texts have dated to two centuries or more before the time of Christ Jesus. About 100 of these documents are copies of the OT and some of the books were represented by several copies. Since the Dead Sea Scrolls were written, thousands of copies of the OT have been made and yet there are only slight variations (copyist errors, apparent inconsistencies, etc.). The effects are insignificant and what was found in the Qumran caves is an excellent confirmation of what we have today as the Holy Bible. The OT has time and again been supported by archaeological discoveries, i.e., Jericho, the Hittites, Hazor (mentioned in Joshua 11:10), Pontius Pilate, and David.
@GospelToday 68p · 788 weeks ago
Scientifically Baconsbud, the New Testament has stronger manuscript support than any other classical literature from Homer, Plato, Aristotle, Caesar and Tacitus. Presently more than 5,000 copies of Greek manuscripts of the New Testament are in existence and around 20,000 more translations in languages like Latin, Coptic, and Syriac. Originally written in Greek, the earliest manuscript fragments can be traced back to within one hundred years after Christ’s death and resurrection. With accumulation of fragments within two centuries of Christ’s death and resurrection, there are enough one can piece most of the New Testament together from them. In contrast, there are only seven manuscript copies of Plato’s Dialogues with a 1,300 year gap between the earliest 8th century A.D. copy and the original 5th century B.C. copy. Faring better than Plato but still far behind the New Testament, homer’s Iliad has only 650 copies with a 1,000 year gap between the earliest 2nd century A.D. copy and the 8th century B.C. original. The New Testament is by far the stronger supported manuscript of any classical literature.
@GospelToday 68p · 788 weeks ago
The Holy Bible holds that God created the universe and the only reason we continue to exist is because God upholds our existence. (Genesis 1:1) (Hebrews 1:3) Scientifically, this Biblical worldview belief is confirmed by the laws of physics and by our existence living within our universe on the planet earth. You can think of the laws of physics as part of God’s invisible qualities.
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The Holy Bible’s Old Testament (Isaiah 40:22) which teaches us that God stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in; which suggests that the universe has actually increased in size since its creation. Scientifically, this Biblical worldview belief is confirmed by redshifts in nearly all galaxies and the Hubble Law which states that distant galaxies show greater redshifts than nearby galaxies.
@GospelToday 68p · 788 weeks ago
A comet gets smaller and smaller with each pass around the sun. It has been estimated average timespan that a typical comet (how large the comet was in the first place and its orbit shape are assumptions in this estimate) could only orbit the sun for about 100,000 years before it completely runs out of material.
Scientifically, the existence of comets within the universe confirms the Biblical worldview that the age of the universe is somewhere between 6 and 10 thousand years old.
@GospelToday 68p · 788 weeks ago
The Holy Bible informs us that God can do anything within logical reason. Being the Almighty Powerful God of all Creation, God could have used a supernatural means to get the light here from the most distant galaxies within a few thousand years or even sooner.
Scientifically, Einstein tells us that time can flow at different rates under different circumstances. Under the right conditions, light from the most distant galaxies could have arrived at Earth in very short amounts of time. Or it could be like the passenger side mirror which has written on it, “Objects in mirror are closer than what they appear.” With this scientific information in mind, God could have used several different natural mechanisms to get the starlight here in thousands of years.
@GospelToday 68p · 788 weeks ago
The Holy Bible tells us that the age of the earth is about six to ten thousand years old based upon God creating everything in six literal 24 hour days (Exodus 20:11) and genealogies recorded in (Genesis 5, 11) first starting with the first man God created, Adam. The Holy Bible said that a massive flood covered the whole earth. Noah’s Flood was a global, year-long, global catastrophe.
Scientifically, the geological features of the earth today are exactly what we should expect to result from such a complex, year-long, destructive event as Noah’s Flood which was global in its nature. Also, an incredible find of fossils we find are of shallow marine organisms, like corals and shellfish—and sometimes we find those even in very high sedimentary layers, even on top of Mount Everest!
@GospelToday 68p · 788 weeks ago
The Biblical worldview believes that God created all the life on earth including Mankind on the fifth and sixth days of creation. (Genesis 1:20-27) Specifically pertaining to the creation of the first man the Holy Bible says that, the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. (Genesis 2:7) As for how the first woman came into being, the Holy Bible says that, the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, He took one of the man's ribs and closed up the place with flesh. Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the man, and He brought her to the man. (Genesis 2:21,22)
Scientifically, a human rib taken out of someone will grow back within two to three months as long as its periosteum is left intact.
@GospelToday 68p · 788 weeks ago
The Holy Bible tells us that God created Adam and Eve (the first man and woman) and that everyone (including you and me) is a relative to Adam and Eve. Different people groups with distinguishing characteristics came through the splitting up of the human population causing isolate groups from each other as a result of The Tower of Babel, as recorded in Genesis 11:1-9 provides the historical basis for the formation of such people groups. According to the Bible’s history, only one biological race exists.
Scientifically, The Human Genome Project came to the same conclusion that only one race of Mankind exists which confirms what the Holy Bible has said all along for thousands of years, that Mankind has a set of common relatives whose names in the Holy Bible are Adam and Eve.